A bizarre political saga involving baseless claims about France’s First Lady reached the highest level of U.S. politics earlier this year, according to MAGA influencer Candace Owens. Owens revealed that former President Donald Trump personally called her in February 2025, urging her to stop promoting the widely debunked conspiracy theory that Brigitte Macron, wife of French President Emmanuel Macron, was born male.
The stunning disclosure came during Owens’ August 1st appearance on The Tucker Carlson Show podcast. Owens stated the intervention occurred shortly after President Macron visited Washington D.C. for critical talks concerning the ongoing Ukraine-Russian war. Owens claimed Trump told her that Macron himself had requested the former president ask her to cease discussing the inflammatory theory about his wife during their diplomatic meeting.
Why Did Trump Intervene in the Brigitte Macron Conspiracy Theory?
Owens detailed the phone conversation, quoting Trump as saying, “I saw her up close and she looks like a woman to me.” She expressed confusion to Trump about why Macron brought her name up during high-stakes war discussions. Owens recounted telling Trump, “It’s not my fault that he married somebody with a p—is,” but acknowledged she has somewhat backed off promoting the theory since Trump’s request.
The conspiracy theory, often termed “transvestigation,” has circulated in fringe online circles for years, alleging without credible evidence that Brigitte Macron, now 72, transitioned genders decades ago. Owens became one of its most prominent proponents, dedicating episodes of her online show to the claims. President Macron has filed a defamation lawsuit in France against Owens over her assertions.
Megyn Kelly Labels Owens a “Conspiracy Theorist” Over Macron Claims
The controversy reignited publicly on August 6th when commentator Megyn Kelly sharply criticized Owens’ persistent promotion of the Macron theory on her podcast. Kelly admitted she hadn’t watched Owens’ full series but relied on producer summaries.
“It sounds a lot like conspiracy,” Kelly stated. “Some of the conspiracies that we’ve criticized in the past have come true. I don’t know whether this will be one of them, but I don’t totally get it.” Kelly added, “She’s a conspiracy theorist who got twisted up on this Macron thing, and it’s not true, and she refuses to see reason… The best case scenario for Candace is it’s true and these people are lying about it because they don’t want to be humiliated.”
Owens Fires Back at Critics
Owens swiftly retaliated against Kelly on X (formerly Twitter), dismissing her critique: “From transgenderism to Covid, @megynkelly has consistently been on the wrong side of every issue. She thinks she’s smarter than her audience but she isn’t. She is being destroyed in her own comment section for trying to do a hit piece on me in defense of Brigitte Macron.”
The episode highlights the persistent spread of baseless personal conspiracy theories within political discourse and the unexpected ways they can intersect with high-level diplomacy. Trump’s direct intervention underscores the theory’s potential to cause significant personal distress and diplomatic friction, even as its proponents continue to defend it despite widespread debunking and legal challenges.
The ongoing Brigitte Macron conspiracy controversy, fueled by Candace Owens and drawing intervention from Donald Trump, exemplifies how fringe theories can disrupt international relations and media landscapes. This incident underscores the real-world consequences of unsubstantiated claims targeting public figures.
Must Know
- What is the “Brigitte Macron conspiracy theory”?
The theory, promoted heavily by Candace Owens, baselessly claims that Brigitte Macron, France’s First Lady, was born male and transitioned genders decades ago. It is widely rejected by credible sources and lacks any verifiable evidence. - Why did Donald Trump get involved?
According to Owens’ account on The Tucker Carlson Show (Aug 1, 2025), Trump called her in February 2025 after French President Emmanuel Macron personally requested during Ukraine war talks that Trump ask Owens to stop discussing the theory about his wife. - What did Trump reportedly say to Candace Owens?
Owens claims Trump told her, “I saw her up close and she looks like a woman to me,” expressing his confusion over Macron raising the issue during serious diplomatic discussions. - How has Emmanuel Macron responded to the claims?
President Macron has taken legal action, filing a defamation lawsuit in France against Candace Owens over her persistent promotion of the false theory about Brigitte Macron. - What was Megyn Kelly’s criticism?
On August 6, 2025, Megyn Kelly labeled Owens a “conspiracy theorist” regarding the Macron claims, stating the theory “sounds a lot like conspiracy” and “isn’t true,” while questioning Owens’ refusal to retract it. - Has Candace Owens stopped discussing the theory?
While Owens stated she has “somewhat backed off” since Trump’s intervention, she continues to defend the theory and attacked Megyn Kelly for criticizing her stance, indicating she has not fully retracted the claims.
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